Players Senior_Moment [ROCKY]    
473
586

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Updated: December 19, 2024 Update
Battles 33,237 1,079 162
WN8
473
586
597
Win Rate 45.55% 46.34% 43.83%
WG Rating 3,524
Forum Signature Account Created: August 14, 2015 @ 8:22 pm   |   Last Battle: December 18, 2024 @ 6:28 pm
 Clans History:
 Nick History:
 Senior_Moment 
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Graphs



  
Tier Damage Winrate Battles
10 842.94 42.41% 5,782 2,0941,815783513577
9 760.58 44.27% 4,615 1,2791,117986479754
8 598.18 45.34% 8,687 2,6272,6681,3911,500501
7 493.00 47.54% 4,346 1,0588925961,292508
6 362.02 46.53% 4,732 8072,047986472420
5 250.00 47.88% 2,026 224528405595274
4 162.85 49.79% 1,651 39366451448347
3 92.88 47.37% 646 02443212862
2 70.77 46.79% 389 057274751
1 61.82 42.98% 363 02433900
Stats Total Avg
Tanks 306
Battles: 33,237
Survival: 6,260 18.83%
XP: 16,276,212 489.70
Total Damage: 18,321,310 551.23
Total Frags: 12,639 0.38
Total Shots: 172,038 5.18
Damage Received: 33,786,596 1,016.54
Capture Points: 30,357 0.91
Defence Points: 9,433 0.28

Players Tanks: 306 All Tanks   |   Recent Tanks
10
20 (20.00%)
769
0.20
0.90
321
50.00%
10
47 (10.64%)
640
0.19
2.00
351
38.30%
10
63 (12.70%)
668
0.48
1.52
316
42.86%
10
109 (11.01%)
735
0.17
1.48
440
55.05%
10
134 (16.42%)
1,019
0.36
0.78
500
38.81%
10
432 (37.04%)
+1
1,017
+1.95
0.39
+0.01
0.03
672
+4.53
45.60%
+0.13%
10
142 (13.38%)
+1
977
+5.43
0.36
1.06
484
+0.70
38.03%
-0.27%
10
1161 (15.07%)
937
0.34
1.49
518
44.44%
10
255 (22.75%)
853
0.40
1.10
411
41.57%
10
90 (13.33%)
651
0.21
0.96
205
40.00%
10
541 (14.79%)
796
0.34
1.53
360
39.37%
10
145 (42.07%)
+1
948
+0.26
0.37
0.02
658
+2.80
51.03%
+0.34%
10
221 (28.51%)
+2
1,229
+6.80
0.48
+0.01
0.69
688
+11.57
47.96%
+0.48%
10
240 (9.58%)
887
0.32
1.76
389
42.92%
10
269 (15.24%)
647
0.25
1.19
149
36.80%
10
46 (19.57%)
807
0.37
1.96
441
56.52%
10
286 (9.09%)
537
0.17
1.93
281
39.16%
10
166 (28.31%)
1,049
0.41
0.61
432
39.76%
10
450 (12.44%)
553
0.30
2.26
379
42.67%
10
344 (12.79%)
720
0.33
1.48
310
38.95%
10
34 (20.59%)
+8
982
-99.19
0.32
-0.02
0.53
+0.07
379
-146.86
38.24%
-7.92%
10
92 (15.22%)
+4
1,114
-11.78
0.41
0.77
505
+9.19
38.04%
+1.68%
10
164 (14.63%)
915
0.28
1.15
446
40.85%
10
101 (16.83%)
733
0.23
0.91
309
45.54%
10
126 (11.90%)
724
0.27
1.39
238
37.30%
10
62 (20.97%)
888
0.32
1.08
497
53.23%
10
42 (11.90%)
814
0.21
1.10
886,970
23.81%
9
69 (39.13%)
923
0.42
0.01
658
44.93%
9
53 (16.98%)
+1
784
-15.07
0.34
-0.01
1.15
328
-20.02
37.74%
-0.73%
9
66 (15.15%)
360
0.27
1.83
295
45.45%
9
120 (40.83%)
+3
686
+16.79
0.28
-0.01
0.01
489
+11.36
48.33%
-0.38%
9
34 (23.53%)
926
0.35
1.53
805
67.65%
9
104 (17.31%)
771
0.45
1.14
819,951
35.58%
9
116 (12.07%)
+1
781
+2.11
0.28
1.06
-0.01
405
-1.83
37.07%
-0.32%
9
55 (27.27%)
904
0.49
0.93
650
52.73%
9
113 (40.71%)
1,145
0.65
0.01
1,009
50.44%
9
94 (21.28%)
407
0.21
2.59
324
43.62%
9
141 (15.60%)
786
0.39
1.28
509
42.55%
9
452 (40.27%)
+1
1,111
+0.57
0.55
0.04
991
+2.91
50.44%
+0.11%
9
100 (16.00%)
866
0.35
1.34
523
51.00%
9
224 (13.84%)
716
0.36
1.57
452
43.75%
9
146 (21.92%)
924
0.53
0.55
465
41.10%
9
13 (0.00%)
626
0.23
1.54
1,023,694
46.15%
9
73 (16.44%)
905
0.32
0.81
602
47.95%
9
156 (10.26%)
756
0.32
1.13
365
42.95%
9
156 (28.85%)
1,006
0.45
0.78
615
44.87%
9
655 (13.59%)
+1
768
+2.54
0.40
1.50
+0.01
470
+3.78
41.22%
+0.09%
9
408 (13.48%)
668
0.37
1.58
430
42.16%
9
542 (13.47%)
475
0.32
2.19
439
44.10%
9
72 (22.22%)
+2
824
-23.53
0.28
-0.01
0.51
+0.01
450
-18.56
45.83%
+0.12%
9
284 (14.44%)
499
0.31
2.01
468
40.85%
9
61 (13.11%)
+1
763
-7.78
0.31
+0.01
0.93
-0.02
501
+3.37
50.82%
+0.82%
9
105 (21.90%)
+1
890
-8.55
0.44
0.80
-0.01
455
-2.33
43.81%
+0.54%
9
120 (15.83%)
882
0.40
1.24
1,096,765
47.50%
9
5 (20.00%)
645
0.40
0.00
844,220
80.00%
9
78 (24.36%)
669
0.36
1.10
327
39.74%
8
45 (8.89%)
384
0.13
1.82
273
46.67%
8
90 (21.11%)
657
0.40
0.73
441
44.44%
8
141 (15.60%)
590
0.24
1.17
409
45.39%
8
25 (8.00%)
342
0.12
1.16
510
72.00%
8
12 (8.33%)
+4
249
+11.17
0.00
1.08
-0.04
n/a
0
16.67%
+4.17%
8
107 (14.95%)
484
0.21
1.50
354
43.93%
8
31 (12.90%)
498
0.06
1.58
260
41.94%
8
10 (10.00%)
112
0.20
1.10
n/a
154,392
40.00%
8
88 (12.50%)
709
0.34
1.20
446
43.18%
8
60 (3.33%)
252
0.15
2.12
135
43.33%
8
34 (17.65%)
334
0.35
2.50
318
41.18%
8
88 (31.82%)
846
0.49
0.91
731
48.86%
8
214 (33.18%)
898
0.57
0.04
964
49.07%
8
407 (17.94%)
+1
651
-1.60
0.41
1.18
526
-3.14
47.17%
-0.12%
8
289 (15.57%)
766
0.45
1.00
577
41.87%
8
101 (23.76%)
753
0.53
1.02
573
42.57%
8
235 (22.55%)
857
0.63
0.58
732
48.94%
8
107 (18.69%)
543
0.31
0.93
426
47.66%
8
189 (16.40%)
662
0.35
1.08
512
44.44%
8
79 (10.13%)
338
0.22
1.51
256
37.97%
8
104 (39.42%)
+2
751
-4.41
0.56
-0.01
0.05
745
-3.04
49.04%
+0.02%
8
26 (15.38%)
639
0.62
1.31
406
38.46%
8
300 (11.00%)
405
0.25
2.40
454
50.00%
8
382 (15.97%)
341
0.28
1.75
395
46.07%
8
420 (14.52%)
331
0.20
1.78
292
41.67%
8
111 (40.54%)
877
0.61
0.02
884
56.76%
8
91 (7.69%)
339
0.21
1.96
293
35.16%
8
33 (12.12%)
505
0.27
1.33
313
36.36%
8
201 (11.44%)
565
0.28
1.00
408
44.28%
8
385 (15.84%)
565
0.34
0.95
442
41.82%
8
34 (17.65%)
448
0.26
0.82
221
38.24%
8
65 (13.85%)
477
0.28
1.00
286
35.38%
8
156 (14.10%)
643
0.28
1.46
425
45.51%
8
66 (13.64%)
581
0.26
1.23
791,857
48.48%
8
81 (11.11%)
347
0.23
1.26
197
44.44%
8
54 (7.41%)
468
0.26
1.02
284
35.19%
8
448 (17.41%)
640
0.42
0.63
395
42.41%
8
433 (29.33%)
773
0.53
0.64
566
45.27%
8
72 (38.89%)
993
0.49
0.00
925
50.00%
8
345 (16.52%)
472
0.38
1.25
424
47.25%
8
103 (10.68%)
479
0.33
1.34
328
42.72%
8
384 (14.84%)
531
0.32
1.35
425
45.57%
8
347 (24.50%)
670
0.41
1.03
649
47.26%
8
141 (16.31%)
580
0.35
1.32
403
42.55%
8
80 (13.75%)
+3
827
-15.86
0.45
+0.01
0.69
-0.03
673
-32.31
47.50%
-1.85%
8
88 (11.36%)
782
0.47
0.84
695
51.14%
8
180 (17.22%)
593
0.33
1.13
477
48.89%
8
317 (16.09%)
597
0.35
0.91
444
43.22%
8
292 (15.07%)
584
0.20
1.01
460
51.03%
8
119 (17.65%)
587
0.35
1.16
503
46.22%
8
74 (16.22%)
858
0.50
0.89
766
39.19%
8
78 (8.97%)
465
0.15
1.72
207
39.74%
8
72 (12.50%)
594
0.21
1.04
796,017
50.00%
8
126 (33.33%)
867
0.63
0.79
784
49.21%
8
95 (14.74%)
702
0.36
1.32
615
49.47%
8
32 (6.25%)
442
0.22
1.09
179
31.25%
7
47 (10.64%)
519
0.28
0.83
359
38.30%
7
201 (16.42%)
390
0.29
1.24
347
43.28%
7
295 (17.97%)
350
0.30
1.53
454
44.41%
7
31 (16.13%)
421
0.39
1.84
671
45.16%
7
3 (0.00%)
+2
469
-249.33
0.67
1.00
n/a
621
+19.53
66.67%
7
8 (12.50%)
247
0.13
1.75
n/a
165,638
25.00%
7
37 (21.62%)
+1
697
-6.94
0.51
-0.01
0.97
-0.03
813
-2.00
51.35%
+1.35%
7
61 (18.03%)
629
0.39
1.39
985,464
52.46%
7
7 (14.29%)
378
0.14
1.57
449
57.14%
7
151 (13.91%)
462
0.42
1.56
560
49.67%
7
36 (50.00%)
+1
491
-0.34
0.31
-0.01
0.00
529
-15.43
50.00%
-1.43%
7
52 (13.46%)
432
0.33
1.56
474,010
55.77%
7
126 (14.29%)
590
0.63
1.69
680
51.59%
7
151 (36.42%)
590
0.60
0.05
615
50.33%
7
60 (16.67%)
+4
503
+11.43
0.42
+0.01
0.65
+0.01
1,195,023
+29,778.11
45.00%
-1.43%
7
120 (22.50%)
491
0.52
0.55
493
44.17%
7
328 (20.12%)
486
0.40
1.02
445
47.26%
7
74 (18.92%)
534
0.46
0.96
482
51.35%
7
52 (9.62%)
405
0.37
0.87
278
42.31%
7
98 (25.51%)
549
0.44
0.44
524
45.92%
7
36 (13.89%)
304
0.25
1.17
195
38.89%
7
134 (20.15%)
+1
613
+3.30
0.46
1.09
+0.01
654
+8.35
54.48%
+0.34%
7
176 (16.48%)
388
0.36
1.55
395
48.30%
7
129 (36.43%)
622
0.64
0.05
722
51.94%
7
113 (36.28%)
654
0.63
0.07
741
50.44%
7
4 (25.00%)
279
0.25
1.00
n/a
305
75.00%
7
10 (20.00%)
534
0.10
1.20
724
70.00%
7
79 (40.51%)
713
0.65
0.01
786
54.43%
7
105 (18.10%)
420
0.41
0.76
341
44.76%
7
95 (10.53%)
321
0.29
1.69
412
34.74%
7
64 (18.75%)
+1
565
-8.97
0.56
-0.01
0.36
-0.01
711
-24.39
54.69%
-0.87%
7
156 (23.08%)
521
0.54
0.43
554
50.00%
7
141 (24.11%)
473
0.44
0.45
461
47.52%
7
69 (11.59%)
+1
539
-1.06
0.48
+0.02
1.17
+0.06
524
+10.68
43.48%
+0.83%
7
62 (9.68%)
546
0.55
1.11
598
32.26%
7
184 (27.17%)
330
0.42
1.54
360
50.54%
7
13 (15.38%)
280
0.00
1.31
n/a
164
46.15%
7
72 (15.28%)
+5
548
+8.33
0.47
+0.01
0.90
+0.01
496
-2.75
41.67%
-1.62%
7
73 (21.92%)
+5
485
-1.53
0.34
0.52
-0.01
515
-10.47
52.05%
-0.89%
7
156 (20.51%)
552
0.42
0.90
583
49.36%
7
208 (19.71%)
591
0.43
1.07
527
48.56%
7
167 (17.96%)
418
0.46
1.78
641
44.91%
7
3 (0.00%)
305
0.00
0.67
n/a
86
33.33%
7
45 (17.78%)
569
0.33
1.09
558
51.11%
7
89 (13.48%)
499
0.36
1.43
348
39.33%
7
25 (28.00%)
803
0.52
1.00
1,333,485
64.00%
6
28 (10.71%)
506
0.57
1.07
714
21.43%
6
121 (18.18%)
176
0.33
1.61
141
47.93%
6
181 (23.20%)
434
0.43
1.07
599
48.62%
6
22 (4.55%)
174
0.14
1.86
223
45.45%
6
73 (12.33%)
317
0.38
1.97
629
41.10%
6
127 (33.07%)
571
0.65
0.10
731
48.03%
6
25 (8.00%)
+1
387
+22.25
0.12
-0.01
1.08
+0.04
345
+34.99
36.00%
+2.67%
6
60 (11.67%)
378
0.35
1.52
480
41.67%
6
152 (9.87%)
325
0.32
1.38
373
44.74%
6
1 (0.00%)
240
0.00
1.00
n/a
88
0.00%
6
33 (24.24%)
605
0.61
0.64
1,650,349
51.52%
6
13 (23.08%)
425
0.31
1.23
660
53.85%
6
58 (13.79%)
436
0.41
0.64
585
46.55%
6
300 (13.67%)
355
0.42
1.88
472
44.67%
6
185 (11.89%)
386
0.50
2.51
452
41.62%
6
128 (14.84%)
141
0.30
1.52
123
39.06%
6
120 (28.33%)
397
0.48
0.23
553
49.17%
6
63 (11.11%)
+5
430
+9.90
0.43
1.00
-0.02
485
+0.85
39.68%
-1.70%
6
112 (26.79%)
412
0.38
0.08
414
45.54%
6
49 (12.24%)
+1
429
-3.27
0.35
-0.01
0.61
+0.01
572
+2.68
48.98%
+1.06%
6
41 (14.63%)
+3
511
+1.19
0.80
+0.02
0.95
-0.08
733
+31.57
41.46%
+1.99%
6
85 (21.18%)
370
0.42
0.74
518
51.76%
6
222 (20.27%)
397
0.42
0.86
502
50.45%
6
187 (13.90%)
481
0.56
0.85
571
47.06%
6
61 (29.51%)
620
0.67
0.07
988
49.18%
6
43 (11.63%)
380
0.42
0.93
467
27.91%
6
179 (10.06%)
+1
439
-0.99
0.41
1.28
+0.02
558
+0.47
46.37%
+0.30%
6
406 (11.33%)
188
0.18
2.09
310
45.07%
6
40 (20.00%)
505
0.73
0.95
780
57.50%
6
32 (12.50%)
492
0.34
1.09
655
43.75%
6
312 (13.46%)
397
0.45
1.54
514
49.04%
6
37 (27.03%)
380
0.32
0.97
426
40.54%
6
65 (18.46%)
349
0.40
1.18
415
47.69%
6
89 (26.97%)
527
0.65
0.60
840
52.81%
6
112 (12.50%)
377
0.47
0.79
459
49.11%
6
34 (5.88%)
307
0.41
2.06
211,609
52.94%
6
54 (16.67%)
472
0.44
0.80
621
48.15%
6
340 (16.47%)
253
0.31
1.28
307
50.29%
6
114 (14.04%)
491
0.46
1.32
593
44.74%
6
26 (11.54%)
223
0.35
1.85
294
38.46%
6
90 (13.33%)
201
0.16
1.80
300
46.67%
6
63 (17.46%)
359
0.41
1.27
457
47.62%
6
169 (18.93%)
277
0.34
1.69
499
50.30%
6
26 (7.69%)
195
0.31
1.19
252
34.62%
6
12 (8.33%)
368
0.58
2.50
249,552
41.67%
6
42 (11.90%)
552
0.60
1.26
901
52.38%
5
85 (38.82%)
307
0.64
0.04
477
48.24%
5
162 (14.20%)
239
0.31
1.78
627
46.91%
5
64 (9.38%)
180
0.19
1.63
200
37.50%
5
34 (17.65%)
306
0.47
0.18
433
29.41%
5
149 (10.74%)
183
0.19
2.03
437
49.66%
5
29 (10.34%)
351
0.62
1.24
950
55.17%
5
27 (25.93%)
327
0.41
1.00
611
59.26%
5
27 (7.41%)
242
0.41
1.04
260
25.93%
5
57 (24.56%)
113
0.11
1.37
282
52.63%
5
24 (20.83%)
273
0.54
1.71
491
58.33%
5
53 (37.74%)
334
0.53
0.09
633
56.60%
5
33 (30.30%)
213
0.55
0.82
387
51.52%
5
52 (23.08%)
334
0.62
1.19
587
51.92%
5
50 (36.00%)
+3
450
+4.84
0.76
+0.02
0.10
+0.04
818
+10.80
52.00%
-3.32%
5
37 (13.51%)
217
0.27
1.78
731
67.57%
5
52 (30.77%)
392
0.88
0.12
416
38.46%
5
44 (13.64%)
249
0.43
1.32
507
54.55%
5
52 (34.62%)
313
0.69
0.67
716
51.92%
5
19 (21.05%)
233
0.26
1.05
318
42.11%
5
1 (100.00%)
98
0.00
0.00
n/a
122,746
100.00%
5
4 (50.00%)
341
0.50
1.25
951
100.00%
5
353 (24.08%)
237
0.43
0.69
388
50.71%
5
56 (21.43%)
242
0.39
0.70
476
53.57%
5
99 (14.14%)
253
0.44
0.56
310
37.37%
5
278 (18.71%)
169
0.36
1.47
237
44.60%
5
94 (24.47%)
311
0.65
1.31
485
44.68%
5
37 (13.51%)
296
0.30
1.35
365
43.24%
5
17 (11.76%)
329
0.35
0.18
534
47.06%
5
37 (16.22%)
343
0.32
0.54
1,021,496
45.95%
4
62 (38.71%)
221
0.73
0.16
693
54.84%
4
106 (28.30%)
143
0.30
1.14
513
51.89%
4
186 (33.87%)
232
0.58
0.09
776
51.61%
4
8 (12.50%)
167
0.63
1.13
529
50.00%
4
10 (10.00%)
221
0.40
0.60
431
30.00%
4
7 (14.29%)
311
1.00
0.86
1,002
71.43%
4
57 (10.53%)
90
0.21
2.11
86
43.86%
4
53 (11.32%)
156
0.30
0.91
321
43.40%
4
42 (40.48%)
204
0.40
0.07
508
47.62%
4
44 (20.45%)
99
0.25
1.77
268
52.27%
4
105 (20.00%)
100
0.21
0.90
70
47.62%
4
86 (29.07%)
243
0.60
0.73
748
65.12%
4
29 (17.24%)
255
0.59
1.59
442
27.59%
4
1 (0.00%)
227
0.00
1.00
n/a
418,547
0.00%
4
18 (5.56%)
175
0.39
1.33
264
22.22%
4
150 (21.33%)
189
0.48
1.15
549
51.33%
4
45 (6.67%)
95
0.18
1.80
152
51.11%
4
57 (31.58%)
128
0.32
0.07
183
43.86%
4
317 (19.56%)
156
0.42
0.97
251
48.58%
4
25 (8.00%)
198
0.36
0.60
390
40.00%
4
7 (28.57%)
194
0.29
1.14
390
57.14%
4
236 (22.46%)
114
0.27
1.42
282
52.12%
3
14 (14.29%)
38
0.07
0.57
133
57.14%
3
15 (13.33%)
211
0.27
1.20
858
46.67%
3
24 (12.50%)
57
0.25
1.42
24
41.67%
3
63 (19.05%)
108
0.33
2.21
347
53.97%
3
26 (38.46%)
121
0.31
0.15
247
50.00%
3
18 (5.56%)
60
0.17
1.39
184
61.11%
3
69 (14.49%)
167
0.48
1.75
675
52.17%
3
17 (29.41%)
113
0.29
0.71
308
52.94%
3
60 (18.33%)
44
0.12
2.13
10
41.67%
3
23 (43.48%)
111
0.48
0.17
236
56.52%
3
128 (22.66%)
95
0.29
0.49
137
53.91%
3
6 (0.00%)
23
0.00
1.17
n/a
0
33.33%
3
6 (0.00%)
98
0.17
1.50
132
33.33%
3
9 (22.22%)
58
0.11
0.78
n/a
0
33.33%
3
2 (50.00%)
35
0.00
2.00
79
50.00%
3
13 (23.08%)
130
0.54
0.23
417
46.15%
3
17 (17.65%)
56
0.24
1.53
13
41.18%
3
119 (18.49%)
67
0.25
1.28
5
36.13%
3
1 (0.00%)
283
1.00
1.00
308,369
100.00%
3
16 (12.50%)
55
0.06
1.31
21
37.50%
2
1 (100.00%)
119
2.00
0.00
684
100.00%
2
1 (0.00%)
8
0.00
0.00
n/a
0
0.00%
2
5 (40.00%)
58
0.40
0.00
308
100.00%
2
9 (33.33%)
39
0.44
0.11
n/a
140
55.56%
2
37 (29.73%)
38
0.30
0.03
28
43.24%
2
16 (12.50%)
59
0.50
0.75
n/a
39
25.00%
2
9 (11.11%)
70
0.22
1.78
155
33.33%
2
9 (11.11%)
90
0.56
1.78
550
66.67%
2
5 (40.00%)
102
1.00
0.20
475
40.00%
2
4 (25.00%)
137
1.00
1.75
902
75.00%
2
54 (29.63%)
55
0.28
1.31
177
61.11%
2
1 (0.00%)
64
0.00
1.00
n/a
52
0.00%
2
58 (24.14%)
47
0.29
1.10
22
43.10%
2
7 (28.57%)
112
0.43
0.57
223
42.86%
2
1 (0.00%)
160
1.00
0.00
n/a
645
0.00%
2
14 (42.86%)
127
0.86
1.79
562
42.86%
2
16 (25.00%)
57
0.19
0.31
157
56.25%
2
77 (9.09%)
66
0.34
3.08
128
42.86%
2
39 (12.82%)
106
0.51
2.31
319
38.46%
2
16 (18.75%)
149
0.31
0.94
752
56.25%
2
10 (10.00%)
90
0.40
0.90
324
40.00%
1
3 (33.33%)
167
1.00
1.00
1,145
100.00%
1
18 (16.67%)
51
0.28
0.61
71
44.44%
1
3 (0.00%)
60
0.67
2.33
318
66.67%
1
12 (25.00%)
58
0.75
1.58
65
33.33%
1
24 (20.83%)
61
0.50
0.67
81
29.17%
1
8 (12.50%)
15
0.00
0.88
n/a
0
37.50%
1
5 (20.00%)
161
0.40
1.40
849
60.00%
1
201 (25.87%)
69
0.49
1.02
199
42.29%
1
2 (50.00%)
98
1.00
0.50
443
50.00%
1
87 (13.79%)
42
0.29
1.39
43
45.98%
Gold cost of prem vehicles: 0
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