Players Tread_the_Needle [MSOB]    

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Players Tanks: 204 All Tanks   |   Recent Tanks
Tier Nation Tank Type Battles (Survived%) Damage Frags Spotted Mastery WN8 Win Other Players
10 B-C 155 58 Stats / Compare 703 (41.11%) +1 1,116 -0.64 0.47 0.03 822 +1.27 48.22% -0.07% vs. Server
10 Centurion AX Stats / Compare 22 (13.64%) +1 599 +3.49 0.14 +0.09 0.91 382 -11.85 59.09% -2.81% vs. Server
10 E 100 Stats / Compare 40 (10.00%) 1,178 0.45 1.20 643 40.00% vs. Server
10 M48 Patton Stats / Compare 146 (23.97%) 1,012 0.48 1.01 547 41.10% vs. Server
10 Strv 103B Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 987 1.00 0.00 n/a 606 100.00% vs. Server
10 T110E4 Stats / Compare 325 (29.85%) 1,496 0.69 0.61 985 48.92% vs. Server
10 T57 Heavy Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 1,431 0.00 1.40 887 60.00% vs. Server
9 AE Phase I Stats / Compare 9 (22.22%) 788 0.33 1.56 325 33.33% vs. Server
9 B-C 155 55 Stats / Compare 432 (36.57%) 1,076 0.50 0.01 903 46.30% vs. Server
9 Centurion 7/1 Stats / Compare 41 (9.76%) 863 0.37 1.15 541 41.46% vs. Server
9 E 75 Stats / Compare 146 (21.23%) 1,044 0.51 1.08 814 46.58% vs. Server
9 Kunze Panzer Stats / Compare 6 (33.33%) 1,059 0.50 1.00 1,321,362 83.33% vs. Server
9 M53/M55 Stats / Compare 1011 (41.54%) +1 1,367 +0.20 0.70 0.03 1,324 +0.19 49.36% +0.05% vs. Server
9 Obj. 752 Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 645 0.00 0.33 n/a 827,018 33.33% vs. Server
9 Obj. 777 II Stats / Compare 9 (33.33%) 1,037 0.33 1.11 766 55.56% vs. Server
9 Patton Tank Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 405 0.00 4.00 n/a 612,581 100.00% vs. Server
9 T-54 ltwt. Stats / Compare 166 (4.22%) 433 0.22 3.51 362 44.58% vs. Server
9 T30 Stats / Compare 590 (29.32%) 1,224 0.74 0.53 888 44.58% vs. Server
9 T54E1 Stats / Compare 100 (18.00%) 1,133 0.56 1.10 810 44.00% vs. Server
9 Tiger-Maus Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 309 0.00 0.50 n/a 505,535 50.00% vs. Server
8 122 TM Stats / Compare 24 (33.33%) 841 0.50 0.96 1,273,665 50.00% vs. Server
8 Alpine Tiger Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 1,174 0.67 1.33 n/a 1,144 33.33% vs. Server
8 Škoda T 27 Stats / Compare 3 (33.33%) 402 0.33 0.33 391 66.67% vs. Server
8 Caernarvon Stats / Compare 112 (15.18%) 803 0.45 1.32 690 44.64% vs. Server
8 Caernarvon AX Stats / Compare 21 (19.05%) 598 0.19 1.48 536 57.14% vs. Server
8 Centurion 5/1 Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 695 0.60 0.80 590 40.00% vs. Server
8 Centurion I Stats / Compare 14 (14.29%) 669 0.71 1.43 612 28.57% vs. Server
8 Chrysler K Stats / Compare 18 (11.11%) 552 0.28 0.89 n/a 277 27.78% vs. Server
8 E 75 TS Stats / Compare 52 (13.46%) 847 0.46 1.56 676 50.00% vs. Server
8 EBR 75 FL 10 Stats / Compare 41 (2.44%) 271 0.22 3.76 243 51.22% vs. Server
8 ELC EVEN 90 Stats / Compare 7 (0.00%) 311 0.29 3.71 275 42.86% vs. Server
8 FV4202 Stats / Compare 40 (25.00%) +1 898 -11.52 0.50 -0.01 1.65 -0.04 951 -31.82 45.00% -1.15% vs. Server
8 GSOR 1010 Stats / Compare 3 (33.33%) 721 0.67 2.67 832,441 66.67% vs. Server
8 HWK 30 Stats / Compare 7 (0.00%) 282 0.29 2.43 n/a 136 0.00% vs. Server
8 IS-3 Stats / Compare 30 (13.33%) 858 0.30 1.47 731 46.67% vs. Server
8 IS-3A Stats / Compare 18 (11.11%) 739 0.44 0.94 430 16.67% vs. Server
8 JgTig.8,8 cm Stats / Compare 5 (40.00%) 888 0.80 0.60 1,036 60.00% vs. Server
8 KanJPz 105 Stats / Compare 15 (20.00%) 1,107 0.47 0.80 1,103 80.00% vs. Server
8 Kpz 07 RH Stats / Compare 15 (13.33%) 719 0.53 1.87 692,287 53.33% vs. Server
8 Löwe Stats / Compare 20 (25.00%) 804 0.35 1.30 773 55.00% vs. Server
8 Lorr. 155 51 Stats / Compare 237 (40.93%) 945 0.62 0.02 955 51.05% vs. Server
8 LT-432 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 425 0.00 3.50 n/a 329 0.00% vs. Server
8 LTTB Stats / Compare 181 (3.31%) 390 0.24 3.30 462 45.30% vs. Server
8 M 41 90 GF Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 255 0.00 5.00 n/a 234 50.00% vs. Server
8 M40/M43 Stats / Compare 559 (39.18%) 1,078 0.68 0.03 1,115 49.73% vs. Server
8 M46 KR Stats / Compare 45 (17.78%) 695 0.27 1.36 732 55.56% vs. Server
8 Mauerbrecher Stats / Compare 116 (21.55%) 784 0.42 0.89 690 46.55% vs. Server
8 Obj. 416 Stats / Compare 231 (19.48%) 784 0.53 1.11 838 48.92% vs. Server
8 P:Victoria Stats / Compare 80 (15.00%) 640 0.43 1.36 703 53.75% vs. Server
8 Pz. 58 Mutz Stats / Compare 19 (15.79%) 770 0.47 1.16 738 36.84% vs. Server
8 Skorpion Stats / Compare 16 (43.75%) 1,072 0.75 0.25 1,033 68.75% vs. Server
8 Skorpion G Stats / Compare 2365 (30.99%) +5 1,108 -0.59 0.74 0.50 1,057 -1.05 48.84% -0.02% vs. Server
8 STA-2 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 239 0.00 1.00 n/a 0 0.00% vs. Server
8 Strv S1 Stats / Compare 57 (36.84%) 990 0.60 0.25 774 45.61% vs. Server
8 T-54 mod. 1 Stats / Compare 10 (0.00%) 911 0.30 1.00 790 30.00% vs. Server
8 T26E4 Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 1,202 1.67 0.33 1,333 0.00% vs. Server
8 T26E5 Stats / Compare 28 (14.29%) 904 0.64 1.14 903 35.71% vs. Server
8 T26E5 P Stats / Compare 15 (6.67%) 481 0.40 1.33 397 53.33% vs. Server
8 T28 Prot. Stats / Compare 404 (33.91%) 962 0.59 0.40 896 49.75% vs. Server
8 T34 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 1,325 1.00 0.00 n/a 1,335 0.00% vs. Server
8 T69 Stats / Compare 380 (17.63%) 757 0.46 1.30 703 42.63% vs. Server
8 T77 Stats / Compare 5 (0.00%) 798 0.00 2.20 n/a 1,077,436 20.00% vs. Server
8 Tiger II Stats / Compare 522 (22.80%) 798 0.46 0.93 735 46.36% vs. Server
8 Tornvagn Stats / Compare 5 (0.00%) 1,215 0.00 1.20 1,971,680 60.00% vs. Server
8 TS-5 Stats / Compare 325 (36.31%) 1,064 0.78 0.62 921 48.92% vs. Server
8 TS-54 Stats / Compare 8 (12.50%) 825 0.50 1.38 1,142,006 25.00% vs. Server
8 Type 63 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 325 0.00 1.00 n/a 379,639 0.00% vs. Server
8 UDES 03 Stats / Compare 69 (40.58%) 1,136 0.93 0.33 1,147 49.28% vs. Server
8 WZ-120-1 FT Stats / Compare 46 (23.91%) 940 0.74 0.52 774 47.83% vs. Server
8 XM66F Stats / Compare 11 (9.09%) 1,176 0.91 0.45 2,576,663 27.27% vs. Server
7 A-44 Stats / Compare 243 (11.52%) 437 0.44 1.84 423 40.33% vs. Server
7 Comet Stats / Compare 27 (14.81%) 564 0.56 1.56 811 55.56% vs. Server
7 E 25 Stats / Compare 162 (15.43%) 621 0.75 2.11 760 53.09% vs. Server
7 Eagle 7 Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 712 0.33 2.00 636 33.33% vs. Server
7 Ikv 90 B Stats / Compare 379 (24.80%) 676 0.65 0.57 847 46.17% vs. Server
7 IS Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 771 0.33 1.67 n/a 724 0.00% vs. Server
7 King Tiger (C) Stats / Compare 167 (13.77%) 609 0.47 1.37 569 46.71% vs. Server
7 KV-3 Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 626 0.25 1.75 585 50.00% vs. Server
7 Lorr. 155 50 Stats / Compare 989 (34.58%) 741 0.67 0.06 847 44.99% vs. Server
7 M12 Stats / Compare 664 (39.91%) 841 0.76 0.04 1,087 51.36% vs. Server
7 O-Ni Stats / Compare 9 (33.33%) 730 0.56 0.44 892 66.67% vs. Server
7 Panther/M10 Stats / Compare 10 (40.00%) 790 0.50 2.30 1,220 70.00% vs. Server
7 Scorpion Stats / Compare 1349 (26.32%) 759 0.68 0.71 921 46.40% vs. Server
7 SP I C Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 153 0.00 3.33 261 66.67% vs. Server
7 Steyr WT Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 586 1.20 0.60 543 20.00% vs. Server
7 Super Hellcat Stats / Compare 574 (31.18%) 764 0.69 0.78 1,007 50.87% vs. Server
7 T25/2 Stats / Compare 1667 (30.59%) +1 795 0.70 0.75 1,089 +0.12 50.75% -0.03% vs. Server
7 T71 DA Stats / Compare 258 (3.88%) 369 0.25 3.14 503 46.12% vs. Server
7 Tiger I Stats / Compare 689 (19.59%) 737 0.61 1.42 828 47.75% vs. Server
7 VK 45.03 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 845 0.50 2.00 n/a 925 50.00% vs. Server
6 A-43 Stats / Compare 220 (9.55%) 441 0.60 2.30 761 47.73% vs. Server
6 AC 4 Exp. Stats / Compare 18 (27.78%) 559 0.50 1.22 757 38.89% vs. Server
6 AMX 13 F3 Stats / Compare 290 (39.31%) +1 553 -1.72 0.67 0.11 722 -5.16 48.97% -0.17% vs. Server
6 Škoda T 25 Stats / Compare 14 (28.57%) 375 0.36 1.57 475 42.86% vs. Server
6 Škoda T 40 Stats / Compare 97 (8.25%) 489 0.43 1.75 783 52.58% vs. Server
6 Cromwell Stats / Compare 217 (14.75%) 467 0.59 1.85 798 50.69% vs. Server
6 Cromwell B Stats / Compare 254 (10.24%) 528 0.59 2.27 804 47.24% vs. Server
6 Crusader Stats / Compare 111 (9.91%) 152 0.28 2.23 188 43.24% vs. Server
6 Dicker Max Stats / Compare 173 (29.48%) 580 0.77 0.72 905 45.09% vs. Server
6 Firefly VC Stats / Compare 19 (15.79%) 694 0.63 0.95 981 26.32% vs. Server
6 Fury Stats / Compare 88 (23.86%) 639 0.58 1.30 1,185 51.14% vs. Server
6 Hellcat Stats / Compare 1954 (29.94%) +3 746 +0.77 0.83 0.94 1,294 +2.34 50.36% +0.08% vs. Server
6 HT No. VI Stats / Compare 157 (21.66%) 620 0.62 1.13 944 48.41% vs. Server
6 Ikv 65 II Stats / Compare 40 (30.00%) 703 0.88 0.85 1,238 45.00% vs. Server
6 KV-1S Stats / Compare 24 (12.50%) 488 0.50 1.13 876 50.00% vs. Server
6 KV-2 Stats / Compare 6 (16.67%) 738 0.67 0.83 1,056 33.33% vs. Server
6 KV-2 (R) Stats / Compare 20 (5.00%) 347 0.35 1.25 246 30.00% vs. Server
6 M44 Stats / Compare 3375 (42.79%) +6 689 -0.42 0.78 0.04 1,146 -1.77 50.99% -0.06% vs. Server
6 M4A1 FL 10 Stats / Compare 4 (25.00%) 607 0.25 1.00 772 50.00% vs. Server
6 M6 Stats / Compare 63 (12.70%) 861 0.78 1.81 1,512 49.21% vs. Server
6 MT-25 Stats / Compare 389 (4.11%) 240 0.24 4.32 530 51.16% vs. Server
6 O-I Stats / Compare 112 (19.64%) 511 0.74 0.68 724 50.00% vs. Server
6 Obj. 244 Stats / Compare 29 (24.14%) 735 0.72 1.10 1,133 62.07% vs. Server
6 Pawlack Tank Stats / Compare 16 (18.75%) 864 0.38 1.63 1,003,764 37.50% vs. Server
6 Strv m/42-57 Stats / Compare 97 (13.40%) 545 0.48 1.19 737 42.27% vs. Server
6 SU-100 Stats / Compare 3 (66.67%) 1,226 1.67 0.00 2,742 66.67% vs. Server
6 SU-100Y Stats / Compare 37 (13.51%) 402 0.49 0.54 437 40.54% vs. Server
6 Super Chaffee Stats / Compare 105 (7.62%) 282 0.25 3.33 180,355 49.52% vs. Server
6 T-34-85M Stats / Compare 52 (28.85%) 730 1.02 1.37 1,329 61.54% vs. Server
6 T-50-2 Stats / Compare 54 (11.11%) 321 0.30 3.30 700 55.56% vs. Server
6 T21 Stats / Compare 308 (4.87%) 270 0.26 2.25 574 49.35% vs. Server
6 T78 Stats / Compare 838 (33.89%) 825 0.91 0.81 1,217 50.72% vs. Server
6 VK 28.01 Stats / Compare 87 (4.60%) 186 0.21 3.00 222 33.33% vs. Server
6 VK 28.01 105 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 355 0.50 3.50 233,887 100.00% vs. Server
6 VK 30.01 P Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 666 0.00 0.00 n/a 1,127 100.00% vs. Server
6 VK 36.01 H Stats / Compare 375 (16.27%) 547 0.59 1.33 845 46.93% vs. Server
5 25TP Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 446 1.00 0.33 n/a 1,004 33.33% vs. Server
5 A-20 Stats / Compare 118 (5.93%) 178 0.44 3.04 605 47.46% vs. Server
5 AMX 13 AM Stats / Compare 45 (37.78%) 390 0.60 0.00 584 35.56% vs. Server
5 ARMT Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 579 0.00 1.00 666,698 75.00% vs. Server
5 Churchill III Stats / Compare 13 (15.38%) 726 0.62 1.54 1,478 30.77% vs. Server
5 Covenanter Stats / Compare 75 (13.33%) 172 0.39 1.72 596 56.00% vs. Server
5 Ikv 103 Stats / Compare 24 (25.00%) 272 0.54 0.50 470 41.67% vs. Server
5 KV-1SA Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 273 0.00 0.25 n/a 362,014 0.00% vs. Server
5 Leopard Stats / Compare 66 (3.03%) 117 0.11 1.79 180 46.97% vs. Server
5 M10 RBFM Stats / Compare 302 (28.48%) 561 0.91 0.78 1,212 49.34% vs. Server
5 M4A1 Stats / Compare 44 (22.73%) 410 0.43 1.16 855 45.45% vs. Server
5 M7 Stats / Compare 550 (11.64%) 294 0.53 2.47 985 50.18% vs. Server
5 Matilda IV Stats / Compare 69 (21.74%) 312 0.67 1.09 733 57.97% vs. Server
5 Pz. IV F2 Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 1,082 2.00 0.00 2,198,394 100.00% vs. Server
5 Ram II Stats / Compare 3 (66.67%) 684 0.67 4.33 1,980 66.67% vs. Server
5 StuG IV Stats / Compare 163 (20.25%) 304 0.56 0.44 616 46.63% vs. Server
5 T-34 Stats / Compare 35 (14.29%) 280 0.37 1.71 536 42.86% vs. Server
5 T14 Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 332 0.50 1.50 495 25.00% vs. Server
5 T67 Stats / Compare 165 (10.91%) 290 0.47 1.36 388 38.79% vs. Server
5 Valiant Stats / Compare 4 (25.00%) 868 0.75 1.50 1,768,739 50.00% vs. Server
5 VK 30.01 H Stats / Compare 193 (24.35%) 399 0.64 1.26 750 50.78% vs. Server
5 Wolverine Stats / Compare 80 (26.25%) 687 1.01 0.88 1,672 48.75% vs. Server
4 AMX 105 AM Stats / Compare 38 (44.74%) 376 1.24 0.08 1,470 50.00% vs. Server
4 AMX 40 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 53 1.00 0.00 n/a 0 0.00% vs. Server
4 BT-7 Stats / Compare 144 (9.72%) 107 0.38 2.22 369 49.31% vs. Server
4 Cruiser IV Stats / Compare 40 (20.00%) 143 0.70 1.78 361 35.00% vs. Server
4 D.W. 2 Stats / Compare 113 (16.81%) 273 0.77 1.07 750 43.36% vs. Server
4 IT-3 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 0 0.00 1.00 n/a 261 100.00% vs. Server
4 Luchs Stats / Compare 61 (8.20%) 183 0.21 2.28 647 67.21% vs. Server
4 M37 Stats / Compare 265 (31.32%) 291 0.71 0.13 948 48.30% vs. Server
4 M5 Stuart Stats / Compare 51 (17.65%) 85 0.10 1.94 131 45.10% vs. Server
4 M8A1 Stats / Compare 147 (20.41%) 317 0.57 1.07 814 52.38% vs. Server
4 P26/40 Stats / Compare 3 (33.33%) 625 1.33 2.00 2,610 100.00% vs. Server
4 Pz.Sfl. IC Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 365 1.00 1.00 901,244 100.00% vs. Server
4 Sav m/43 Stats / Compare 7 (71.43%) 549 2.43 0.57 2,236 85.71% vs. Server
4 T-28 Stats / Compare 36 (19.44%) 207 0.58 1.64 588 52.78% vs. Server
4 T-34 1941 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 109 0.50 2.50 n/a 105,193 0.00% vs. Server
4 Valentine II Stats / Compare 7 (28.57%) 255 0.71 1.29 862 57.14% vs. Server
3 AMX 38 Stats / Compare 2 (100.00%) 404 0.50 3.50 2,181 100.00% vs. Server
3 BT-7 art. Stats / Compare 52 (15.38%) 125 0.42 1.44 530 55.77% vs. Server
3 Cruiser III Stats / Compare 41 (14.63%) 78 0.41 1.95 131 39.02% vs. Server
3 Gr.Tr. Stats / Compare 70 (18.57%) 164 0.67 1.80 583 55.71% vs. Server
3 Ikv 72 Stats / Compare 14 (35.71%) 292 1.50 0.57 1,073 35.71% vs. Server
3 LT vz. 38 Stats / Compare 8 (12.50%) 63 0.25 2.13 208 62.50% vs. Server
3 LTP Stats / Compare 94 (15.96%) 144 0.48 1.74 558 53.19% vs. Server
3 M3 Light Stats / Compare 56 (10.71%) 92 0.38 2.14 233 42.86% vs. Server
3 M3 Stuart Stats / Compare 43 (9.30%) 78 0.35 2.28 154 46.51% vs. Server
3 M7 Priest Stats / Compare 16 (18.75%) 160 0.63 0.63 178 25.00% vs. Server
3 MTLS-1G14 Stats / Compare 97 (16.49%) 223 0.92 1.71 1,005 55.67% vs. Server
3 Pz. I C Stats / Compare 58 (3.45%) 125 0.57 2.90 535 56.90% vs. Server
3 Pz. III E Stats / Compare 37 (16.22%) 138 0.59 1.76 545 56.76% vs. Server
3 Pz. T 15 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 566 0.00 7.00 n/a 2,360 0.00% vs. Server
3 T-116 Stats / Compare 4 (25.00%) 121 0.50 1.50 427 50.00% vs. Server
3 T-29 Stats / Compare 17 (11.76%) 265 0.88 1.12 1,071 47.06% vs. Server
3 T-46 Stats / Compare 54 (16.67%) 142 0.43 1.35 475 44.44% vs. Server
3 Toldi III Stats / Compare 20 (10.00%) 129 0.45 2.40 577 50.00% vs. Server
2 BT-2 Stats / Compare 20 (10.00%) 59 0.05 1.95 263 65.00% vs. Server
2 Light VIC Stats / Compare 26 (15.38%) 46 0.35 1.54 31 42.31% vs. Server
2 LT vz. 35 Stats / Compare 6 (33.33%) 95 0.50 2.83 529 66.67% vs. Server
2 M2 Light Stats / Compare 14 (35.71%) 141 0.43 2.14 726 85.71% vs. Server
2 MKA Stats / Compare 40 (22.50%) 196 0.88 1.85 850 47.50% vs. Server
2 Pvlvv fm/42 Stats / Compare 13 (15.38%) 130 0.69 0.46 429 30.77% vs. Server
2 Pz. 35 R Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 420 2.00 0.00 1,095,751 100.00% vs. Server
2 Pz. I Stats / Compare 34 (26.47%) 61 0.29 1.76 245 58.82% vs. Server
2 T-60 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 63 0.00 0.00 n/a 66 0.00% vs. Server
2 T1 HMC Stats / Compare 81 (38.27%) 66 0.58 0.25 235 53.09% vs. Server
2 T1E6 Stats / Compare 24 (8.33%) 77 0.29 1.54 269 50.00% vs. Server
2 T7 Car Stats / Compare 27 (14.81%) 103 0.63 2.07 490 48.15% vs. Server
2 Tetrarch Stats / Compare 29 (17.24%) 119 0.59 1.03 426 44.83% vs. Server
1 Fiat 3000 Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 193 0.80 1.40 1,217 60.00% vs. Server
1 FT Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 0 0.00 0.00 n/a 0 0.00% vs. Server
1 K-housenka Stats / Compare 4 (0.00%) 93 0.50 1.75 311 0.00% vs. Server
1 L.Tr. Stats / Compare 21 (28.57%) 74 0.38 1.48 294 57.14% vs. Server
1 Medium I Stats / Compare 22 (27.27%) 100 0.86 1.14 619 72.73% vs. Server
1 MS-1 Stats / Compare 15 (20.00%) 77 0.40 1.67 444 80.00% vs. Server
1 NC-31 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 59 0.00 1.50 146 50.00% vs. Server
1 R. Otsu Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 56 1.00 1.00 n/a 99 0.00% vs. Server
1 T1 Stats / Compare 18 (11.11%) 90 0.39 1.61 314 33.33% vs. Server

Gold cost of prem vehicles: 0
USD Value: $0.00

Creadits spent on regular vhicles: 0
Credits to gold: 0

Total Gold: 0
Total USD: $0.00

1 gold = 400 credits | 250 gold =$1.00 USD
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