Players InB4_Death [TIP]    
1,606
1,606

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Updated: June 14, 2024 Update
Battles 34,254 34,254 26
WN8
1,606
1,606
3,621
Win Rate 55.12% 55.12% 65.38%
WG Rating 7,137
Forum Signature Account Created: April 11, 2013 @ 1:24 pm   |   Last Battle: June 05, 2024 @ 6:06 pm
 Clans History:
 Nick History:
 InB4_Death 
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Graphs



  
Tier Damage Winrate Battles
10 1,835.88 48.98% 2,440 9948227249953
9 1,433.44 52.90% 3,955 6311,2671,201373483
8 1,305.06 52.83% 6,059 9791,5816822,594223
7 966.55 54.75% 3,516 7161671,0471,294292
6 797.41 56.35% 6,011 7654271,7262,0641,029
5 627.57 58.22% 6,111 8958112,4711,537397
4 431.89 56.31% 1,490 4349586392159
3 313.97 58.61% 3,622 01,1202,22123150
2 153.29 53.21% 966 09452080272
1 145.40 54.76% 84 0246000
Stats Total Avg
Tanks 304
Battles: 34,254
Survival: 9,763 28.50%
XP: 22,194,108 647.93
Total Damage: 32,023,858 934.89
Total Frags: 36,012 1.05
Total Shots: 537,946 15.70
Damage Received: 24,249,217 707.92
Capture Points: 53,269 1.56
Defence Points: 25,698 0.75

Players Tanks: 304 All Tanks   |   Recent Tanks
10
53 (24.53%)
1,240
0.62
0.00
830
30.19%
10
173 (32.37%)
1,816
0.80
0.77
1,370
52.02%
10
72 (9.72%)
772
0.47
4.56
599
40.28%
10
42 (23.81%)
1,257
0.50
0.21
738
54.76%
10
456 (35.31%)
2,162
1.23
0.65
1,727
49.34%
10
482 (27.39%)
1,730
0.83
1.52
1,501
52.49%
10
1 (0.00%)
0
0.00
0.00
n/a
0
0.00%
10
13 (7.69%)
1,187
0.31
1.00
572
23.08%
10
591 (25.04%)
1,893
1.11
1.42
1,694
45.52%
10
149 (32.89%)
1,678
0.86
1.05
1,261
58.39%
10
69 (18.84%)
1,595
0.67
1.58
1,131
46.38%
10
339 (30.38%)
1,997
1.12
0.94
1,567
49.56%
9
8 (25.00%)
960
0.75
1.50
640
50.00%
9
483 (40.99%)
1,363
0.76
0.04
1,428
48.45%
9
215 (27.91%)
+3
1,739
-11.66
1.02
-0.01
2.16
-0.01
2,069,190
-14,523.06
52.09%
+0.21%
9
12 (0.00%)
929
0.58
3.25
593,296
66.67%
9
35 (34.29%)
1,624
0.66
0.71
1,342
54.29%
9
11 (18.18%)
775
0.45
0.73
418
18.18%
9
84 (9.52%)
+1
773
-2.94
0.57
-0.01
4.32
952
-1.23
44.05%
+0.67%
9
10 (30.00%)
1,178
0.50
0.70
3,389,716
50.00%
9
140 (31.43%)
+2
1,824
-6.07
0.98
+0.01
1.48
2,538,209
-4,742.63
50.71%
-0.01%
9
27 (14.81%)
1,802
1.04
1.30
1,798
40.74%
9
21 (23.81%)
872
0.38
1.38
1,337,823
57.14%
9
8 (0.00%)
1,189
0.25
1.88
1,688,274
37.50%
9
520 (29.23%)
+1
1,608
+1.70
0.98
1.42
1,452
+4.18
54.04%
+0.09%
9
11 (36.36%)
1,589
0.82
1.45
2,396,810
63.64%
9
20 (30.00%)
1,492
0.65
1.40
1,281
55.00%
9
189 (29.63%)
1,438
0.78
0.99
1,400
56.61%
9
357 (29.41%)
1,630
1.16
1.73
2,039
59.10%
9
401 (18.70%)
1,049
0.67
3.17
1,626
53.62%
9
704 (23.15%)
1,133
0.83
2.23
1,860
53.27%
9
353 (29.18%)
1,646
1.16
1.21
1,666
53.26%
9
4 (25.00%)
529
0.75
0.50
1,043,012
25.00%
9
31 (29.03%)
1,401
0.68
0.42
4,748,201
54.84%
9
31 (29.03%)
+3
1,312
-5.18
1.03
0.81
-0.01
2,913,814
+2,071.84
45.16%
-1.27%
9
14 (21.43%)
1,813
0.93
1.86
2,681,982
50.00%
9
266 (35.71%)
1,865
1.05
0.59
1,752
52.63%
8
8 (12.50%)
1,521
0.50
1.13
2,297,166
37.50%
8
37 (27.03%)
1,434
0.97
1.35
2,060,549
45.95%
8
74 (24.32%)
1,093
0.77
1.12
940
44.59%
8
3 (33.33%)
1,097
0.67
1.00
1,272
100.00%
8
11 (27.27%)
1,170
0.73
0.45
1,732,284
54.55%
8
3 (0.00%)
480
0.33
0.33
n/a
286
33.33%
8
3 (0.00%)
674
0.00
0.33
n/a
831,141
0.00%
8
184 (19.02%)
1,204
0.86
2.78
1,064,353
46.20%
8
16 (31.25%)
809
0.31
1.06
965,998
62.50%
8
331 (26.59%)
+2
1,479
+4.55
0.96
0.91
1,689
+5.84
50.15%
8
3 (0.00%)
822
0.67
0.33
628
33.33%
8
27 (25.93%)
1,078
0.63
1.11
1,042
55.56%
8
139 (25.18%)
+2
756
-1.49
0.76
3.56
1,459
-2.81
56.12%
-0.09%
8
14 (42.86%)
889
0.50
0.00
946
57.14%
8
104 (32.69%)
1,548
1.33
0.85
4,378,639
56.73%
8
147 (21.09%)
+1
1,367
-1.74
0.89
-0.01
1.81
-0.01
1,663,652
-2,135.94
54.42%
+0.31%
8
38 (34.21%)
1,480
1.21
1.13
2,305
63.16%
8
16 (25.00%)
1,034
0.63
1.56
1,269,767
43.75%
8
403 (33.50%)
1,387
0.96
0.93
1,739
53.35%
8
5 (0.00%)
1,130
0.40
0.80
n/a
2,801,617
40.00%
8
17 (5.88%)
678
0.24
0.41
2,712,670
64.71%
8
2 (50.00%)
1,379
1.00
2.50
1,695
50.00%
8
10 (60.00%)
544
1.00
3.40
952
80.00%
8
209 (43.54%)
1,307
0.94
0.08
1,717
52.63%
8
1 (0.00%)
277
0.00
3.00
n/a
0
0.00%
8
54 (7.41%)
641
0.41
3.56
919
53.70%
8
225 (19.56%)
853
0.73
3.22
1,758
54.22%
8
61 (8.20%)
473
0.33
3.23
569
44.26%
8
26 (26.92%)
1,018
0.58
1.00
1,498,851
73.08%
8
193 (18.13%)
851
0.83
3.07
1,752
51.30%
8
9 (33.33%)
1,375
1.22
1.56
2,365
66.67%
8
71 (28.17%)
1,009
0.69
0.87
1,137
56.34%
8
26 (3.85%)
676
0.46
0.88
542
26.92%
8
10 (40.00%)
1,119
0.90
1.00
1,911,159
60.00%
8
2 (50.00%)
812
0.00
0.50
782
50.00%
8
250 (20.80%)
1,222
0.87
1.52
1,329
52.00%
8
9 (33.33%)
969
0.78
1.89
1,514,526
66.67%
8
141 (30.50%)
1,274
0.89
1.67
1,956
58.16%
8
150 (20.67%)
1,138
0.73
1.26
974
49.33%
8
435 (38.62%)
1,698
1.22
0.49
1,923
52.18%
8
162 (28.40%)
+4
1,549
-4.27
0.99
+0.01
0.80
+0.02
4,014,481
+1,879.97
49.38%
+0.02%
8
1177 (30.16%)
1,545
1.13
0.77
1,775
53.53%
8
362 (33.70%)
+3
1,556
+1.96
1.01
0.57
1,591
+6.65
56.08%
+0.37%
8
266 (27.82%)
1,192
1.00
1.57
1,773
55.26%
8
79 (32.91%)
1,015
0.85
0.91
1,341
48.10%
8
42 (21.43%)
660
0.55
0.67
569
47.62%
8
305 (29.18%)
1,206
0.90
1.26
1,605
53.44%
8
46 (26.09%)
660
0.37
0.78
667
58.70%
8
2 (0.00%)
439
0.00
0.00
n/a
713,714
0.00%
8
85 (24.71%)
798
0.56
1.05
979
51.76%
8
8 (12.50%)
878
0.13
0.75
1,250,543
12.50%
8
57 (29.82%)
1,417
0.79
1.37
2,004,813
52.63%
8
1 (0.00%)
767
1.00
1.00
n/a
1,711,771
0.00%
7
120 (24.17%)
709
0.74
1.76
1,099
56.67%
7
129 (23.26%)
815
0.91
4.05
1,592
62.79%
7
39 (12.82%)
506
0.59
1.49
841
41.03%
7
102 (28.43%)
1,076
0.98
0.98
1,585
59.80%
7
53 (30.19%)
+1
1,150
+3.40
1.00
1.30
+0.01
2,411,827
+7,992.89
58.49%
+0.80%
7
41 (21.95%)
516
0.41
1.59
725
58.54%
7
99 (48.48%)
776
0.64
0.08
1,168
54.55%
7
534 (28.28%)
1,061
1.25
1.67
1,618
52.06%
7
11 (18.18%)
629
0.82
1.36
816
54.55%
7
18 (11.11%)
890
1.11
0.61
1,396
55.56%
7
159 (37.11%)
1,094
1.09
0.81
1,707
57.23%
7
2 (0.00%)
396
0.00
0.50
n/a
554,744
0.00%
7
66 (15.15%)
768
0.76
1.00
955
46.97%
7
5 (0.00%)
583
0.40
0.60
n/a
562
0.00%
7
193 (37.82%)
992
0.74
0.07
1,258
47.67%
7
125 (36.00%)
1,284
1.02
1.42
1,905
55.20%
7
1 (0.00%)
538
0.00
0.00
n/a
469
0.00%
7
3 (0.00%)
543
0.00
1.67
380
33.33%
7
2 (50.00%)
400
0.00
3.00
618
50.00%
7
66 (27.27%)
788
0.65
2.38
1,613
54.55%
7
130 (28.46%)
1,191
1.39
1.06
1,901
60.77%
7
153 (27.45%)
974
0.82
1.21
1,472
55.56%
7
105 (34.29%)
+1
1,285
-2.04
1.13
+0.01
0.79
2,119
+4.18
60.95%
+0.38%
7
32 (12.50%)
552
0.59
0.66
502
40.63%
7
95 (23.16%)
748
0.59
0.48
922
51.58%
7
3 (66.67%)
283
0.00
0.33
n/a
336
100.00%
7
380 (35.00%)
1,300
1.05
0.94
1,775
56.58%
7
763 (21.63%)
817
0.78
2.79
1,889
54.52%
7
38 (21.05%)
705
0.79
0.87
926
60.53%
7
1 (100.00%)
1,332
1.00
1.00
3,216
100.00%
7
1 (0.00%)
849
1.00
1.00
n/a
950
0.00%
7
47 (4.26%)
445
0.51
2.02
844
57.45%
6
279 (21.86%)
574
0.79
2.83
1,930
56.63%
6
7 (14.29%)
221
0.57
4.14
320
57.14%
6
51 (29.41%)
635
0.90
1.67
513,149
64.71%
6
5 (20.00%)
554
0.40
0.20
930
80.00%
6
34 (5.88%)
344
0.53
3.32
883
55.88%
6
175 (19.43%)
438
0.52
1.57
1,123
51.43%
6
292 (49.66%)
867
0.95
0.13
1,429
56.16%
6
5 (0.00%)
128
0.00
0.20
22
40.00%
6
61 (37.70%)
832
1.20
0.84
1,870
67.21%
6
136 (20.59%)
619
0.92
2.64
1,377
58.09%
6
28 (25.00%)
549
1.14
1.64
1,917
57.14%
6
127 (24.41%)
680
0.84
0.95
1,142
46.46%
6
2 (50.00%)
468
1.50
0.00
753
100.00%
6
737 (42.61%)
837
1.10
0.20
1,791
54.95%
6
1541 (31.80%)
967
1.28
1.95
2,178
60.16%
6
12 (25.00%)
713
1.08
0.08
1,124
41.67%
6
48 (22.92%)
738
0.83
0.69
1,325
58.33%
6
63 (19.05%)
579
0.73
0.38
948
52.38%
6
5 (20.00%)
721
0.40
0.40
3,295,714
80.00%
6
130 (30.77%)
795
1.02
0.83
1,508
58.46%
6
364 (28.30%)
1,013
1.27
1.14
2,109
50.82%
6
21 (28.57%)
674
0.81
1.67
1,152
61.90%
6
24 (12.50%)
480
0.67
1.29
743
37.50%
6
145 (23.45%)
627
0.77
0.88
974
42.07%
6
813 (23.12%)
625
0.90
3.69
2,442
56.09%
6
39 (30.77%)
762
0.95
0.44
1,312
46.15%
6
55 (30.91%)
982
1.11
1.00
1,936
54.55%
6
48 (37.50%)
678
0.88
1.38
1,409
70.83%
6
8 (12.50%)
272
0.13
0.50
183
37.50%
6
12 (8.33%)
161
0.17
0.92
n/a
1
33.33%
6
1 (0.00%)
0
0.00
0.00
n/a
0
0.00%
6
22 (18.18%)
632
0.77
1.09
972
27.27%
6
177 (37.85%)
1,067
1.47
1.86
2,278
61.58%
6
6 (16.67%)
494
0.33
2.83
1,123
50.00%
6
60 (13.33%)
284
0.25
1.92
561
43.33%
6
206 (28.64%)
691
0.86
2.40
2,448
64.56%
6
145 (34.48%)
+2
1,148
-9.35
1.26
-0.02
1.22
2,041
-27.02
57.24%
-0.10%
6
4 (75.00%)
650
1.00
1.25
1,501
100.00%
6
52 (15.38%)
532
0.50
2.31
1,575
51.92%
6
22 (13.64%)
645
0.91
1.59
478,553
59.09%
6
49 (22.45%)
659
0.71
0.90
1,036
42.86%
5
29 (20.69%)
199
0.48
1.76
787
55.17%
5
2 (50.00%)
398
1.50
2.00
406,611
50.00%
5
301 (14.62%)
313
0.42
3.28
982
50.83%
5
16 (18.75%)
299
0.75
0.13
416
31.25%
5
44 (36.36%)
549
1.36
0.89
1,589
56.82%
5
14 (64.29%)
267
0.64
0.00
576
71.43%
5
1526 (22.54%)
552
1.08
3.90
2,775
61.21%
5
528 (28.98%)
487
1.41
2.33
2,848
59.66%
5
1 (0.00%)
100
0.00
1.00
n/a
110,425
100.00%
5
5 (20.00%)
429
1.40
2.00
985
60.00%
5
28 (10.71%)
330
0.43
0.61
737
57.14%
5
171 (38.60%)
653
1.22
0.80
1,613
52.05%
5
336 (49.40%)
762
1.61
0.13
2,022
58.04%
5
39 (12.82%)
271
0.38
2.64
782
46.15%
5
3 (0.00%)
227
0.33
0.67
n/a
196
33.33%
5
47 (48.94%)
480
0.89
0.02
745
59.57%
5
594 (23.91%)
617
1.28
1.72
1,980
57.91%
5
37 (13.51%)
216
0.46
2.54
678
54.05%
5
37 (29.73%)
805
1.62
1.57
1,977
67.57%
5
32 (12.50%)
276
0.41
0.88
513
34.38%
5
2 (0.00%)
50
0.00
0.00
n/a
103
50.00%
5
131 (22.90%)
547
1.08
1.36
1,639
52.67%
5
5 (20.00%)
768
0.80
2.20
1,062,062
40.00%
5
21 (4.76%)
343
0.48
0.33
499
28.57%
5
24 (29.17%)
609
1.04
0.38
1,354
58.33%
5
5 (40.00%)
378
0.20
1.40
900
60.00%
5
39 (12.82%)
661
1.10
0.62
1,608
41.03%
5
20 (35.00%)
647
0.95
0.90
1,930
75.00%
5
5 (0.00%)
293
0.20
0.00
n/a
824,174
40.00%
5
35 (25.71%)
440
1.09
0.54
1,048
51.43%
5
42 (28.57%)
574
1.12
1.33
1,811
40.48%
5
9 (11.11%)
144
0.22
1.56
265
44.44%
5
545 (33.58%)
633
1.23
1.10
1,655
55.60%
5
132 (23.48%)
620
1.20
1.89
1,597
59.09%
5
1253 (35.28%)
910
1.53
1.69
2,674
61.61%
5
2 (50.00%)
357
0.50
2.00
862
50.00%
5
2 (0.00%)
657
1.00
2.00
n/a
1,406,308
0.00%
5
49 (18.37%)
542
1.10
0.65
1,358
55.10%
4
14 (28.57%)
243
0.29
1.07
787
42.86%
4
16 (18.75%)
468
1.31
0.56
1,456
43.75%
4
8 (25.00%)
62
0.13
0.50
3
37.50%
4
4 (0.00%)
43
0.00
0.50
n/a
0
0.00%
4
61 (32.79%)
345
0.67
0.03
1,173
45.90%
4
11 (18.18%)
160
0.55
2.27
655
45.45%
4
13 (23.08%)
316
1.15
1.00
1,265
61.54%
4
6 (16.67%)
319
1.00
0.67
1,374
66.67%
4
183 (28.42%)
442
1.43
0.63
1,517
53.55%
4
503 (29.22%)
414
1.09
3.76
2,095
60.44%
4
43 (20.93%)
306
0.91
0.56
1,035
44.19%
4
86 (37.21%)
314
0.76
0.08
1,078
55.81%
4
27 (14.81%)
89
0.22
1.85
112
33.33%
4
5 (20.00%)
161
0.20
0.00
531
60.00%
4
26 (38.46%)
351
1.00
0.31
853
50.00%
4
69 (26.09%)
418
1.16
0.81
1,432
53.62%
4
15 (6.67%)
400
0.93
1.13
1,345
53.33%
4
12 (8.33%)
230
0.58
2.17
1,000
75.00%
4
3 (0.00%)
218
0.33
0.33
n/a
435,524
66.67%
4
44 (13.64%)
423
1.11
0.48
1,398
52.27%
4
21 (23.81%)
258
0.62
0.52
632
47.62%
4
2 (50.00%)
288
0.50
0.00
780
50.00%
4
10 (40.00%)
125
0.50
0.00
148
50.00%
4
14 (14.29%)
146
0.43
0.29
359
57.14%
4
30 (36.67%)
332
0.90
0.50
897
63.33%
4
13 (30.77%)
350
0.77
0.69
1,326
69.23%
4
49 (22.45%)
277
0.71
0.61
620
53.06%
4
196 (32.65%)
843
1.61
1.69
1,339,924
63.78%
4
6 (33.33%)
387
1.67
0.17
1,406
33.33%
3
3 (0.00%)
109
0.00
0.67
n/a
433
66.67%
3
12 (50.00%)
148
1.08
1.08
631
50.00%
3
95 (20.00%)
295
1.20
2.16
1,830
56.84%
3
240 (13.75%)
294
1.21
3.09
1,498
58.75%
3
7 (0.00%)
68
0.57
0.14
141
57.14%
3
14 (28.57%)
247
0.93
0.93
903
42.86%
3
4 (25.00%)
155
0.75
2.00
687
50.00%
3
14 (14.29%)
162
0.79
0.71
609
50.00%
3
68 (27.94%)
294
1.22
1.74
1,392
55.88%
3
21 (19.05%)
281
1.24
0.62
1,092
57.14%
3
18 (22.22%)
392
1.56
2.06
2,666
61.11%
3
10 (10.00%)
240
1.10
1.30
871
50.00%
3
984 (28.76%)
342
1.49
1.58
1,821
58.13%
3
11 (36.36%)
219
1.18
1.64
1,266
72.73%
3
16 (31.25%)
220
0.19
0.13
406
43.75%
3
169 (27.81%)
302
1.20
0.75
1,045
54.44%
3
34 (26.47%)
145
0.59
0.91
555
58.82%
3
9 (33.33%)
490
2.56
1.11
2,610
55.56%
3
1309 (28.80%)
267
1.28
4.40
1,651
58.52%
3
3 (0.00%)
130
0.00
0.00
n/a
297
0.00%
3
3 (33.33%)
330
0.00
1.67
1,037
33.33%
3
31 (38.71%)
246
0.74
0.06
637
51.61%
3
475 (38.11%)
465
1.94
2.03
2,593
65.89%
3
10 (20.00%)
278
0.60
1.60
984
40.00%
3
19 (0.00%)
174
0.58
0.84
652
42.11%
3
26 (26.92%)
135
0.65
0.31
261
46.15%
3
2 (0.00%)
197
0.00
2.50
n/a
860
50.00%
3
15 (20.00%)
166
0.33
0.33
523
66.67%
2
6 (16.67%)
162
0.83
1.17
676
50.00%
2
19 (21.05%)
158
1.05
1.47
846
47.37%
2
6 (16.67%)
157
0.33
0.83
624
66.67%
2
8 (12.50%)
136
0.50
0.88
702
62.50%
2
8 (12.50%)
95
0.13
0.63
430
62.50%
2
51 (23.53%)
262
1.04
0.78
1,141
49.02%
2
6 (33.33%)
143
1.17
1.17
731
50.00%
2
9 (22.22%)
202
1.00
0.11
767
55.56%
2
1 (0.00%)
106
1.00
0.00
n/a
363
0.00%
2
1 (100.00%)
63
1.00
0.00
412
100.00%
2
5 (20.00%)
70
0.60
0.40
110
40.00%
2
2 (0.00%)
178
1.50
4.00
1,213
50.00%
2
3 (100.00%)
176
2.33
0.00
1,310
100.00%
2
3 (33.33%)
288
2.33
1.00
1,843
66.67%
2
2 (100.00%)
271
0.50
4.50
1,444
100.00%
2
65 (24.62%)
128
0.58
0.75
525
50.77%
2
8 (25.00%)
162
0.50
0.63
764
62.50%
2
1 (0.00%)
121
0.00
0.00
n/a
373
0.00%
2
2 (0.00%)
34
0.00
0.50
n/a
0
0.00%
2
2 (0.00%)
0
0.00
1.00
n/a
0
0.00%
2
1 (0.00%)
20
0.00
0.00
n/a
0
0.00%
2
5 (40.00%)
140
0.80
0.00
500
60.00%
2
7 (28.57%)
156
0.57
0.14
903
57.14%
2
18 (27.78%)
154
0.50
0.44
649
50.00%
2
28 (28.57%)
221
1.14
1.46
1,615
71.43%
2
260 (34.23%)
192
1.14
0.42
1,202
53.85%
2
2 (0.00%)
107
0.50
1.00
487
50.00%
2
324 (14.51%)
111
0.51
2.69
494
51.85%
2
18 (27.78%)
118
0.67
0.67
429
44.44%
2
36 (27.78%)
163
1.06
0.50
715
61.11%
2
31 (16.13%)
161
0.87
1.68
1,070
61.29%
2
4 (50.00%)
60
0.25
0.00
155
50.00%
2
4 (0.00%)
104
0.00
0.00
447
50.00%
2
16 (12.50%)
111
0.50
0.25
241
37.50%
2
4 (0.00%)
167
0.25
0.75
668
50.00%
1
1 (100.00%)
480
4.00
1.00
4,857
100.00%
1
3 (0.00%)
65
0.33
1.00
n/a
119
33.33%
1
1 (100.00%)
111
1.00
1.00
780
100.00%
1
1 (0.00%)
0
0.00
1.00
n/a
0
0.00%
1
12 (33.33%)
106
0.58
1.50
512
58.33%
1
24 (29.17%)
114
1.17
0.58
507
45.83%
1
8 (12.50%)
200
1.50
0.75
1,104
37.50%
1
1 (0.00%)
33
0.00
0.00
n/a
261
100.00%
1
4 (0.00%)
62
0.50
1.00
138
25.00%
1
2 (50.00%)
223
1.50
0.00
1,427
50.00%
1
27 (18.52%)
189
1.00
1.81
1,425
70.37%
Gold cost of prem vehicles: 0
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Credits to gold: 0

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