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Tier Nation Tank Type Battles (Survived%) Damage Frags Spotted Mastery WN8 Win Other Players
10 BZ-75 Stats / Compare 63 (30.16%) +1 2,258 +3.41 0.79 +0.02 1.14 +0.05 2,892,255 +17,083.29 52.38% +0.77% vs. Server
10 Centurion AX Stats / Compare 291 (21.65%) +1 1,758 -2.44 0.68 1.25 1,248 -4.54 42.61% -0.15% vs. Server
10 CS-63 Stats / Compare 13 (15.38%) +1 1,950 +103.78 0.69 +0.03 2.31 -0.03 1,637,059 +101,077.42 61.54% +3.21% vs. Server
10 Foch 155 Stats / Compare 124 (28.23%) 1,813 0.90 0.55 1,163 43.55% vs. Server
10 Jg.Pz. E 100 Stats / Compare 73 (39.73%) 2,014 0.89 0.45 1,396 53.42% vs. Server
10 Obj. 277 Stats / Compare 78 (24.36%) 1,602 0.60 1.26 935 38.46% vs. Server
10 Rinoceronte Stats / Compare 94 (34.04%) +1 2,394 -15.73 0.82 -0.01 0.88 -0.01 3,754,380 -68,216.00 52.13% -0.56% vs. Server
10 S. Conqueror Stats / Compare 33 (54.55%) 2,848 1.12 1.03 2,364 60.61% vs. Server
10 T-62A Stats / Compare 79 (29.11%) 1,520 0.94 0.73 1,183 50.63% vs. Server
10 T110E3 Stats / Compare 120 (27.50%) +1 2,027 +13.47 0.81 -0.01 0.60 -0.01 1,283 +10.31 44.17% +0.47% vs. Server
10 T110E5 Stats / Compare 19 (42.11%) 1,894 1.26 1.21 1,703 57.89% vs. Server
10 T57 Heavy Stats / Compare 66 (34.85%) 2,170 0.91 0.79 1,628 54.55% vs. Server
10 TVP T 50/51 Stats / Compare 87 (20.69%) +2 1,758 +14.66 0.71 +0.01 1.34 -0.03 1,301 +1.04 55.17% -1.30% vs. Server
9 Škoda T 50 Stats / Compare 119 (24.37%) 1,449 0.87 1.28 1,203 45.38% vs. Server
9 BZ-68 Stats / Compare 56 (32.14%) 1,766 0.91 1.05 2,437,591 51.79% vs. Server
9 CC-1 Mk. 2 Stats / Compare 14 (35.71%) 1,584 0.64 0.64 3,113,441 64.29% vs. Server
9 Centurion 7/1 Stats / Compare 88 (18.18%) 961 0.55 0.92 627 30.68% vs. Server
9 Conqueror Stats / Compare 73 (52.05%) 2,492 1.36 1.08 2,692 58.90% vs. Server
9 CS-59 Stats / Compare 84 (34.52%) 2,004 1.06 0.93 2,849,494 53.57% vs. Server
9 Jagdtiger Stats / Compare 63 (39.68%) 1,932 1.02 0.63 1,617 47.62% vs. Server
9 KPz 3 Pr.07HK Stats / Compare 17 (17.65%) 1,479 0.82 0.06 4,778,664 29.41% vs. Server
9 Kunze Panzer Stats / Compare 25 (44.00%) 1,822 1.32 2.08 2,766,425 56.00% vs. Server
9 M103 Stats / Compare 89 (23.60%) 1,343 0.63 0.80 1,037 37.08% vs. Server
9 Obj. 283 Stats / Compare 20 (20.00%) 1,627 0.70 1.00 2,739,039 40.00% vs. Server
9 Obj. 705 Stats / Compare 64 (26.56%) 1,998 0.86 0.77 1,733 51.56% vs. Server
9 Progetto 66 Stats / Compare 78 (32.05%) 1,712 0.73 1.15 2,703,463 52.56% vs. Server
9 Strv 103-0 Stats / Compare 132 (38.64%) 1,785 0.95 0.46 1,388 43.18% vs. Server
9 T-10 Stats / Compare 39 (28.21%) 645 0.28 0.62 401 48.72% vs. Server
9 T54E1 Stats / Compare 121 (23.97%) 1,415 0.91 0.61 1,125 43.80% vs. Server
9 TIII Jäger Stats / Compare 178 (42.13%) 1,754 1.10 0.51 6,564,100 54.49% vs. Server
8 122 TM Stats / Compare 279 (43.37%) 1,748 1.03 0.91 3,008,119 55.91% vs. Server
8 50TP pr. Stats / Compare 9 (44.44%) 1,962 0.89 0.67 2,191 77.78% vs. Server
8 703 II (122) Stats / Compare 44 (20.45%) 1,625 1.05 1.00 1,706 43.18% vs. Server
8 AMBT Stats / Compare 317 (28.39%) 1,438 0.98 1.11 2,256,895 50.47% vs. Server
8 AMX Cda 105 Stats / Compare 826 (34.99%) 1,461 0.92 0.52 1,562 50.61% vs. Server
8 Škoda T 56 Stats / Compare 204 (30.88%) 1,766 1.03 0.88 2,788,794 51.96% vs. Server
8 BZ-166 Stats / Compare 65 (33.85%) 1,214 0.82 1.18 2,048,218 47.69% vs. Server
8 Caernarvon AX Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 731 0.67 1.00 n/a 579 0.00% vs. Server
8 Centurion I Stats / Compare 227 (25.11%) 671 0.52 0.80 748 51.98% vs. Server
8 CS-52 LIS Stats / Compare 194 (22.68%) 1,399 0.91 1.38 1,724,343 46.39% vs. Server
8 CS-53 Stats / Compare 44 (36.36%) 1,312 0.70 0.84 2,134,226 56.82% vs. Server
8 FV4202 Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 371 0.00 0.67 n/a 390 66.67% vs. Server
8 IS-3 Stats / Compare 144 (22.22%) 1,089 0.74 0.84 1,218 56.25% vs. Server
8 IS-3A Stats / Compare 93 (36.56%) 1,749 1.09 0.57 1,800 56.99% vs. Server
8 IS-M Stats / Compare 20 (15.00%) 721 0.30 1.05 493 35.00% vs. Server
8 JPanther II Stats / Compare 218 (30.28%) 924 0.65 0.21 729 45.87% vs. Server
8 Lorr. 155 51 Stats / Compare 12 (50.00%) 790 0.50 0.08 843 58.33% vs. Server
8 Lorr. 40 t Stats / Compare 101 (21.78%) 1,301 0.85 0.86 1,308 47.52% vs. Server
8 LT-432 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 845 0.00 4.00 n/a 1,189 100.00% vs. Server
8 M-IV-Y Stats / Compare 3 (33.33%) 1,140 0.33 0.00 1,455,611 33.33% vs. Server
8 M46 KR Stats / Compare 15 (33.33%) 511 0.47 0.47 350 40.00% vs. Server
8 Obsidian Stats / Compare 25 (28.00%) 1,376 1.04 0.76 2,441,824 52.00% vs. Server
8 Progetto 54 Stats / Compare 58 (31.03%) 1,495 1.00 0.45 2,474,626 41.38% vs. Server
8 Renegade Stats / Compare 22 (31.82%) 1,365 0.68 1.23 1,163 50.00% vs. Server
8 SMV CC-67 Stats / Compare 37 (29.73%) 1,672 0.95 1.05 3,761,730 67.57% vs. Server
8 T-103 Stats / Compare 94 (29.79%) 1,375 0.80 0.46 1,298 50.00% vs. Server
8 T-34-3 Stats / Compare 9 (22.22%) 898 0.44 1.11 904 44.44% vs. Server
8 T-44-100 Stats / Compare 20 (30.00%) 1,364 1.40 1.60 1,922 50.00% vs. Server
8 T26E5 P Stats / Compare 93 (22.58%) 948 0.56 1.06 1,037 54.84% vs. Server
8 T28 Stats / Compare 49 (32.65%) 1,115 0.57 0.65 1,099 57.14% vs. Server
8 T32 Stats / Compare 272 (24.26%) 769 0.54 0.66 630 41.18% vs. Server
8 T69 Stats / Compare 118 (27.12%) 977 0.71 0.81 1,096 50.00% vs. Server
8 T77 Stats / Compare 65 (27.69%) 1,575 1.02 1.29 2,683,278 52.31% vs. Server
8 Turtle I Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 553 0.00 1.00 223 33.33% vs. Server
8 UDES 03 Stats / Compare 134 (28.36%) 1,184 0.80 0.49 1,178 48.51% vs. Server
8 Vipera Stats / Compare 71 (29.58%) 1,215 0.69 0.65 2,816,080 56.34% vs. Server
7 BZ-58 Stats / Compare 38 (31.58%) 1,270 1.08 0.74 2,049,002 50.00% vs. Server
7 Carro P.88 Stats / Compare 27 (48.15%) 1,189 1.11 0.63 2,257,965 81.48% vs. Server
7 Chi-To SP Stats / Compare 35 (45.71%) 1,338 1.06 0.51 2,824,644 51.43% vs. Server
7 Comet Stats / Compare 161 (26.09%) 515 0.80 0.94 676 50.31% vs. Server
7 CS-44 Stats / Compare 49 (20.41%) 1,138 0.94 1.00 1,450,711 40.82% vs. Server
7 FV201 (A45) Stats / Compare 5 (40.00%) 703 0.40 0.60 932 80.00% vs. Server
7 Ikv 90 B Stats / Compare 52 (25.00%) 793 0.81 0.33 1,078 53.85% vs. Server
7 IS Stats / Compare 135 (34.81%) 852 0.72 0.67 1,099 57.04% vs. Server
7 JPanther Stats / Compare 273 (22.71%) 565 0.67 0.26 553 47.62% vs. Server
7 Lorr. 155 50 Stats / Compare 49 (40.82%) 716 0.69 0.02 787 53.06% vs. Server
7 Setter Stats / Compare 16 (6.25%) 193 0.00 2.06 217 50.00% vs. Server
7 SMV CC-56 Stats / Compare 30 (13.33%) 1,140 0.90 1.37 2,403,679 43.33% vs. Server
7 Steyr WT Stats / Compare 68 (48.53%) 1,333 1.25 0.40 2,088 61.76% vs. Server
7 SU-152 Stats / Compare 70 (21.43%) 703 0.71 0.34 880 48.57% vs. Server
7 Super Hellcat Stats / Compare 148 (32.43%) 846 0.81 0.53 1,084 51.35% vs. Server
7 T-34/100 Stats / Compare 12 (25.00%) 715 0.67 0.50 929 50.00% vs. Server
7 T20 Stats / Compare 109 (17.43%) 819 0.63 1.34 1,065 45.87% vs. Server
7 T25 AT Stats / Compare 49 (34.69%) 1,044 1.10 0.63 1,486 53.06% vs. Server
7 T29 Stats / Compare 402 (28.86%) 638 0.67 0.69 587 44.78% vs. Server
7 Type 62 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 159 0.00 0.00 n/a 21 0.00% vs. Server
6 AMX 13 F3 Stats / Compare 129 (42.64%) 664 0.72 0.05 881 50.39% vs. Server
6 Škoda T 25 Stats / Compare 138 (14.49%) 462 0.70 0.99 754 46.38% vs. Server
6 B.U.G.I. Stats / Compare 18 (27.78%) 995 1.00 1.11 1,811,189 61.11% vs. Server
6 Bassotto Stats / Compare 20 (40.00%) 1,273 1.15 0.60 4,053,339 45.00% vs. Server
6 Cromwell Stats / Compare 256 (16.80%) 380 0.68 1.21 604 47.66% vs. Server
6 Crusader Stats / Compare 96 (9.38%) 112 0.23 1.05 33 37.50% vs. Server
6 Dicker Max Stats / Compare 364 (33.52%) 690 0.93 0.45 1,180 49.73% vs. Server
6 FV304 Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 354 0.33 0.00 n/a 320 33.33% vs. Server
6 HT No. VI Stats / Compare 10 (30.00%) 1,241 0.90 1.60 2,446 60.00% vs. Server
6 Ikv 65 II Stats / Compare 37 (35.14%) 866 0.92 0.70 1,697 54.05% vs. Server
6 Jackson Stats / Compare 23 (34.78%) 876 1.00 0.83 1,672 56.52% vs. Server
6 Jg.Pz. IV Stats / Compare 155 (26.45%) 357 0.49 0.35 401 42.58% vs. Server
6 Ji-Ro Stats / Compare 18 (61.11%) 1,053 1.39 0.44 6,207,063 72.22% vs. Server
6 KV-1S Stats / Compare 121 (27.27%) 317 0.73 0.66 475 44.63% vs. Server
6 KV-2 Stats / Compare 91 (20.88%) 571 0.85 0.55 892 49.45% vs. Server
6 KV-85 Stats / Compare 202 (23.76%) 497 0.56 0.64 646 46.04% vs. Server
6 M4A3E2 Stats / Compare 210 (17.62%) 287 0.50 0.70 356 47.14% vs. Server
6 O-I Stats / Compare 210 (32.86%) 482 0.76 0.50 644 48.57% vs. Server
6 SU-100Y Stats / Compare 86 (27.91%) 720 0.91 0.27 1,150 52.33% vs. Server
6 Super Chaffee Stats / Compare 10 (10.00%) 367 0.30 1.90 240,384 40.00% vs. Server
6 T-50-2 Stats / Compare 31 (12.90%) 326 0.48 3.58 704 48.39% vs. Server
6 Type 58 Stats / Compare 22 (40.91%) 948 0.91 0.91 2,088 59.09% vs. Server
6 VK 28.01 105 Stats / Compare 8 (25.00%) 243 0.50 3.63 161,291 50.00% vs. Server
5 A-20 Stats / Compare 49 (8.16%) 91 0.20 1.18 149 44.90% vs. Server
5 AMX 13 AM Stats / Compare 87 (43.68%) 251 0.59 0.02 374 50.57% vs. Server
5 AT 2 Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 108 0.00 0.50 n/a 84 50.00% vs. Server
5 Škoda T 24 Stats / Compare 83 (13.25%) 278 0.43 1.00 658 51.81% vs. Server
5 Bishop Stats / Compare 43 (32.56%) 446 0.86 0.02 856 48.84% vs. Server
5 Churchill I Stats / Compare 47 (27.66%) 190 0.40 0.30 163 44.68% vs. Server
5 Covenanter Stats / Compare 75 (12.00%) 89 0.16 0.68 173 50.67% vs. Server
5 DS PZInż Stats / Compare 8 (0.00%) 841 0.50 0.75 1,036,936 37.50% vs. Server
5 Ikv 103 Stats / Compare 16 (56.25%) 843 1.13 0.94 2,586 68.75% vs. Server
5 KV-1 Stats / Compare 165 (15.76%) 270 0.54 0.51 311 34.55% vs. Server
5 M4A1 Stats / Compare 73 (21.92%) 159 0.41 0.56 222 50.68% vs. Server
5 O-I Exp. Stats / Compare 131 (26.72%) 395 0.96 0.68 585 45.80% vs. Server
5 Pz. III K Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 0 0.00 1.00 n/a 0 0.00% vs. Server
5 S35 CA Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 997 1.00 0.00 2,320 100.00% vs. Server
5 StuG III G Stats / Compare 114 (24.56%) 234 0.57 0.20 310 44.74% vs. Server
5 T-34 Stats / Compare 56 (10.71%) 223 0.23 0.71 462 55.36% vs. Server
5 Valiant Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 442 1.00 2.00 953,359 100.00% vs. Server
5 VK 30.01 H Stats / Compare 56 (19.64%) 182 0.32 0.39 100 41.07% vs. Server
5 Wolverine Stats / Compare 22 (36.36%) 716 0.77 0.23 1,518 45.45% vs. Server
4 Alecto Stats / Compare 51 (7.84%) 105 0.14 0.84 149 54.90% vs. Server
4 AMX 105 AM Stats / Compare 71 (36.62%) 227 0.59 0.06 675 53.52% vs. Server
4 B1 Stats / Compare 9 (11.11%) 107 0.33 0.56 130 44.44% vs. Server
4 Birch Gun Stats / Compare 45 (44.44%) 199 0.58 0.04 675 60.00% vs. Server
4 BT-7 Stats / Compare 27 (7.41%) 65 0.41 1.52 221 59.26% vs. Server
4 Cruiser IV Stats / Compare 19 (10.53%) 42 0.16 0.63 0 31.58% vs. Server
4 D.W. 2 Stats / Compare 92 (25.00%) 115 0.26 0.49 81 39.13% vs. Server
4 Hetzer Stats / Compare 117 (25.64%) 205 0.68 0.19 339 42.74% vs. Server
4 M3 Lee Stats / Compare 49 (18.37%) 110 0.20 0.59 214 51.02% vs. Server
4 M5 Stuart Stats / Compare 3 (0.00%) 40 0.00 2.33 n/a 0 33.33% vs. Server
4 M8A1 Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 1,172 1.00 0.00 3,743 100.00% vs. Server
4 Matilda Stats / Compare 15 (26.67%) 120 0.33 0.40 199 53.33% vs. Server
4 SAu 40 Stats / Compare 19 (31.58%) 489 1.16 0.32 1,511 52.63% vs. Server
4 Sav m/43 Stats / Compare 26 (19.23%) 327 0.62 0.19 868 53.85% vs. Server
4 ST vz. 39 Stats / Compare 35 (17.14%) 149 0.71 0.43 280 42.86% vs. Server
4 T-28 Stats / Compare 67 (7.46%) 66 0.24 0.75 51 44.78% vs. Server
4 T6 Medium Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 129 1.00 1.00 n/a 183,139 100.00% vs. Server
4 Type 95 Stats / Compare 82 (18.29%) 103 0.27 0.49 125 43.90% vs. Server
4 Valentine AT Stats / Compare 21 (19.05%) 130 0.57 0.29 327 57.14% vs. Server
3 AMX 38 Stats / Compare 19 (21.05%) 11 0.05 0.11 n/a 0 21.05% vs. Server
3 Cruiser III Stats / Compare 11 (0.00%) 41 0.45 0.73 2 36.36% vs. Server
3 D2 Stats / Compare 14 (28.57%) 112 0.21 0.71 216 42.86% vs. Server
3 Ikv 72 Stats / Compare 26 (11.54%) 152 0.81 0.23 283 42.31% vs. Server
3 Locust Stats / Compare 16 (31.25%) 239 0.63 3.50 1,199 68.75% vs. Server
3 Lorr. 39L AM Stats / Compare 20 (25.00%) 92 0.50 0.05 50 40.00% vs. Server
3 LT vz. 38 Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 55 0.40 0.20 173 60.00% vs. Server
3 LTP Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 100 0.00 0.00 275 50.00% vs. Server
3 M2 Medium Stats / Compare 26 (19.23%) 80 0.54 0.42 209 57.69% vs. Server
3 M3 Stuart Stats / Compare 20 (5.00%) 111 0.20 1.25 292 45.00% vs. Server
3 Marder II Stats / Compare 38 (36.84%) 93 0.45 0.18 48 44.74% vs. Server
3 Medium III Stats / Compare 13 (30.77%) 75 0.15 0.15 149 53.85% vs. Server
3 Pz. III E Stats / Compare 21 (9.52%) 79 0.48 0.76 95 42.86% vs. Server
3 Pz. S35 Stats / Compare 3 (100.00%) 408 2.33 1.67 2,038 100.00% vs. Server
3 Sexton II Stats / Compare 19 (36.84%) 114 0.32 0.05 244 36.84% vs. Server
3 T-116 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 338 0.00 1.00 1,582 100.00% vs. Server
3 T-29 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 213 0.00 1.00 n/a 577 0.00% vs. Server
3 T-46 Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 480 2.00 1.00 3,190 100.00% vs. Server
3 Toldi III Stats / Compare 5 (0.00%) 100 0.00 0.40 426 60.00% vs. Server
3 Type 91 Stats / Compare 33 (18.18%) 48 0.27 0.33 58 45.45% vs. Server
2 BT-2 Stats / Compare 7 (0.00%) 68 0.14 0.43 116 42.86% vs. Server
2 Cruiser II Stats / Compare 63 (30.16%) 230 1.10 0.70 1,107 63.49% vs. Server
2 D1 Stats / Compare 6 (66.67%) 78 0.33 0.33 418 83.33% vs. Server
2 FCM 36 Stats / Compare 5 (20.00%) 48 0.60 0.20 n/a 0 40.00% vs. Server
2 FT BS Stats / Compare 9 (44.44%) 107 0.89 0.00 605 66.67% vs. Server
2 G.Pz. Mk. VI Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 0 0.00 0.00 n/a 261 100.00% vs. Server
2 I-Go/Chi-Ro Stats / Compare 8 (25.00%) 98 0.38 1.13 516 87.50% vs. Server
2 Loyd GC Stats / Compare 13 (30.77%) 68 0.54 0.08 371 61.54% vs. Server
2 LT vz. 35 Stats / Compare 8 (0.00%) 76 0.38 0.63 n/a 160 25.00% vs. Server
2 M14/41 Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 342 2.50 0.50 1,945 50.00% vs. Server
2 M2 Light Stats / Compare 7 (0.00%) 111 0.57 0.86 317 42.86% vs. Server
2 Medium II Stats / Compare 10 (40.00%) 108 0.60 0.40 388 50.00% vs. Server
2 Pvlvv fm/42 Stats / Compare 7 (28.57%) 77 0.14 0.43 368 85.71% vs. Server
2 Pz. II Stats / Compare 7 (28.57%) 26 0.14 1.14 143 57.14% vs. Server
2 Pz.Jäg. I Stats / Compare 10 (20.00%) 78 0.20 0.50 n/a 125 50.00% vs. Server
2 T-26 Stats / Compare 6 (0.00%) 43 0.33 0.67 2 33.33% vs. Server
2 T-26G FT Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 34 0.00 0.00 n/a 0 0.00% vs. Server
2 T-60 Stats / Compare 6 (33.33%) 45 0.17 0.50 n/a 0 33.33% vs. Server
2 T2 Medium Stats / Compare 7 (42.86%) 275 2.14 0.86 1,745 42.86% vs. Server
2 Te-Ke Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 881 3.00 2.00 8,371 50.00% vs. Server
2 Tetrarch Stats / Compare 5 (60.00%) 519 4.00 0.60 n/a 4,027 100.00% vs. Server
2 TKS 20 Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 678 2.50 2.00 7,057 50.00% vs. Server
2 UC 2-pdr Stats / Compare 10 (0.00%) 105 0.80 0.90 311 50.00% vs. Server
1 Cruiser I Stats / Compare 7 (0.00%) 151 0.71 0.14 508 0.00% vs. Server
1 Fiat 3000 Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 96 1.00 0.00 n/a 336 0.00% vs. Server
1 FT Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 50 1.00 1.00 114 50.00% vs. Server
1 K-housenka Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 148 1.50 1.00 890 50.00% vs. Server
1 L.Tr. Stats / Compare 2 (0.00%) 142 1.50 0.00 697 50.00% vs. Server
1 Medium I Stats / Compare 6 (16.67%) 82 0.67 0.83 444 66.67% vs. Server
1 MS-1 Stats / Compare 4 (25.00%) 36 0.00 0.25 n/a 80 50.00% vs. Server
1 NC-31 Stats / Compare 2 (50.00%) 30 0.00 0.50 87 50.00% vs. Server
1 R. Otsu Stats / Compare 1 (0.00%) 122 1.00 0.00 838 100.00% vs. Server
1 Strv fm/21 Stats / Compare 4 (50.00%) 115 1.25 0.75 605 50.00% vs. Server
1 T1 Stats / Compare 1 (100.00%) 210 2.00 0.00 n/a 1,600 100.00% vs. Server

Gold cost of prem vehicles: 0
USD Value: $0.00

Creadits spent on regular vhicles: 0
Credits to gold: 0

Total Gold: 0
Total USD: $0.00

1 gold = 400 credits | 250 gold =$1.00 USD
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